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Hey fellas--
We're in the middle of the biggest reverse migration BACK to the South since we left it. (I mean ... combined numbers...)
They say college grads are leading the charge ... meaning the region will even be more transformed in the future.
So we're all aware of the problems in our community as will as all the issues with Main Stream ... so ... does anybody still believe that a "good life" can still be carved out in Urban America?
I strongly feel that it's time to do some thing differen ... to plan ... and bying some of this very cheap land in the Midwest and South and pulling together like minds to support and build with each other makes far more sense than continuing to numb out to the collapsing housing market, the increasing crime and drug abuse, the increasing numbers of HIV/AIDS victims, the increasing numbers of pimps in the pulpit selling that tired old Santa Claus version of Christianity ... hey ... this ain't never going to be no where near "fair."
So ... we need new myths. We need new adventures ... and before we HAVE to ... new plans to weather the up coming Recessions the future most certainly hold.
I thing we got to determind for ourselves who we are and set it down in stone. We are not now nor will ever be a monolythic people ... so maybe several versions need to be carved out. Something like "Orthodox, Conservative, Innovators ... " or something, ya know?
I'm for going back to the land. Making a black version of this "Back To The Land" Movement that's going on. They're doing lots of Intentional Community / Co-Housing things. It's so ripe right now, that we can re-love ourselves into millions ... AND find happiness and strenght doing it. Just visit a couple of these sites ... talk about the pros and cons ... start discussing whatever you're feeling about it ... 'cus, we're dying here bloods ... this shit is killing us.
Black Farms Yahoo Group
www.finance.groups.yahoo.com/gro...rms/
Black Solutions.com
www.blacksolutions.blogspot.com
www.blackfarms.wordpress.com
Hey fellas--
We're in the middle of the biggest reverse migration BACK to the South since we left it. (I mean ... combined numbers...)
They say college grads are leading the charge ... meaning the region will even be more transformed in the future.
So we're all aware of the problems in our community as will as all the issues with Main Stream ... so ... does anybody still believe that a "good life" can still be carved out in Urban America?
I strongly feel that it's time to do some thing differen ... to plan ... and bying some of this very cheap land in the Midwest and South and pulling together like minds to support and build with each other makes far more sense than continuing to numb out to the collapsing housing market, the increasing crime and drug abuse, the increasing numbers of HIV/AIDS victims, the increasing numbers of pimps in the pulpit selling that tired old Santa Claus version of Christianity ... hey ... this ain't never going to be no where near "fair."
So ... we need new myths. We need new adventures ... and before we HAVE to ... new plans to weather the up coming Recessions the future most certainly hold.
I thing we got to determind for ourselves who we are and set it down in stone. We are not now nor will ever be a monolythic people ... so maybe several versions need to be carved out. Something like "Orthodox, Conservative, Innovators ... " or something, ya know?
I'm for going back to the land. Making a black version of this "Back To The Land" Movement that's going on. They're doing lots of Intentional Community / Co-Housing things. It's so ripe right now, that we can re-love ourselves into millions ... AND find happiness and strenght doing it. Just visit a couple of these sites ... talk about the pros and cons ... start discussing whatever you're feeling about it ... 'cus, we're dying here bloods ... this shit is killing us.
Black Farms Yahoo Group
www.finance.groups.yahoo.com/gro...rms/
Black Solutions.com
www.blacksolutions.blogspot.com
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Blacks migrating back to the South is incredibly STUPID.
Racism is at its WORST down there, and so is the Klan.
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Brother,
With respect let me say that I believe you to be incorrect. I don't know what you are basing your opinion on, but it seems like you don't have any direct experience of the South and the way things have changed over the last 50 years.
I have an entirely different take on moving back to the south. I may have another perception of life in the south because I am an ex-patriate southerner. I was born in Tenn. in 1952, and believe me I remember not just racism, but segregation. When I was a kid; Black people could only shop in the major department stores in downtown Nashville on Thursday afternoons. During the Christmas season there were only 3 day when we could come into downtown and shop. When Walt Disney's Pinnoccio came to the theatre my mother took me to see it but we had to pay at the ticket window in front with everybody else but then we had to go to the side of the theatre and enter through the alley and go to the balcony; called Nigger Heaven where we could only sit in the last 5 rows of the right side. We couldn't have any refreshments; since the concession stand was downstairs in the part of the theatre that only whites could enter.
I also remember going downtown on the bus. There was a sign that clipped onto the frame of the seats. On one side it said white and on the other colored. When the whites ran out of seats in their section, they would move the sign back one row into the colored section and the 4 Blacks sitting on that row had to get up and give their seats to the whites. You could be a Black Doctor or Lawyer and have to give your seat up to any white person regardless of their status.
I have seen the evolution of the South into a different society. I have always gone "home" from time to time throughout the 40+ years that my family has lived in NY. I went to college even further into the south than my hometown of Nashville; in Atlanta in the 1970's. Since then I have witnessed desegregation, Blacks moving into sections of towns and cities that were barred to them, and the acceptance of Blacks in positions of responsibility and authority by whites. I was shocked when on a visit to Nashville 20+ years ago, I had occassion to go into downtown to what was the most elite Department Store of Nashville, called Cain Sloan. It was the only place in Nashville that had a Camera dept that sold a replacement battery for my electronic flash. I still had impressions of Cain Sloan formed years earlier, during the time of "Nigger Thursdays". I expected to receive a cool but civil reception. I didn't care, I only wanted to purchase my battery and get out. I had called ahead and knew that they had it in stock. I entered the store and got the surprise of my life. When I came in through the front door (something that would have gotten you either arrested or assaulted during my childhood) I was GREETED by a pretty young white girl who said, "Good afternood Sir, welcome to Cain Sloan. How are you today? May I direct you to any particular department? Do you have a Cain Sloan Charge Account?" I already knew where the camera department was, so I said, "thank you, but no. I know where the camera department is." She SMILED and said, "Well have a good day Sir. My name is Debbie. If I can assist you in any way let me know."
This typifies the current (now 20 years later) state of racial contact in the South. Southern Whites have had 2 generations to become accustomed to Black Supervsiors and Managers. Mississippi has more Black elected officials than any other state. Asheville, NC (home of the Vanderbilt Mansion; Biltmore) has a Black Mayor, even though Black represent only 17% of the population.
I experience much more racism here in NYC than I do when I visit the south. I have been called Moulie, Kaffir, and Schvatza many more times than I have ever been called nigger. I have worked in Agency Personnel Services here, with white client companies whose management knew me only as a voice on the phone who have openly communicated racist sentiments and hiring policies, basing their perception of my ethnicity on my voice and mode of expression (assuming me to be white). I was even once told by a white colleague (who meant it as a compliment) that, "Al, you would really be somebody if you were white."
Now that I am reaching the last third of my life I intend to spend it in the South. I will be relocating to North Carolina within a year. I see more opportunity in the South for us as a people, than I do in the Northeast or West where we are in competition with assorted Immigrant communities (many of whom are more racist than American whites). In the South, American Blacks are much more welcome than even white foreigners.
I also must disagree with you about the Klan. Trust me today's Klan is only a pale shadow of the "good ol' Klan". When I was a kid, poor rural whites would descend upon Nashville on Saturday nights to go to the Grand Ol' Opry. They lived lives of rural poverty and were enraged to see the opulent homes of the professional Blacks in North Nashville. They would get liquored up and do "drive bys" on these homes; shooting into them and driving away. To the best of my knowledge none of them were ever apprehended. Those days are long gone and the most marginalized white wouldn't even consider such an idea today. Trully the South has changed. I invite you (and anyone else who isn't up to date on conditions there) to come down and visit. -
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Maryland is as far south as I have been. My mom is Panamania so I have no family in the south, but I would love to move there get a bigger house and more land.
There has been a big migration here by both white and black people back to GA, SC and NC. Mostly due to the housing boom. A nice 3 bed room house here can cost you between 300k to 500k depending on the area. Down south you can get a 5 bedroom home with more land for half that.
Not to mention genterfication is going on here so all the young white kids are moving back to the city and they have all this spending power and they are also off the chain. Get drunk and run crazy all weekend long. The white people at my job come in every monday complaining about something crazy the college students/young adults have done over the weekend.
I'm happy the amount of land and home I have but if I can get more for the same that I am paying here down south. I think I might be moving. -
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Nuru--
I don't know a d__mn thing about you 'cept what's on your web page ... but lady, I love you. My question to everyone ... now that we see that there are black folks ... conscious black folks all over America, thinking along the same lines ... where do we go from here?
I've given thought to the theory and I've investigated the practice ... now ...
1.) Do we as individuals "build a better ball park" and hope they'll come?
2.) Seek out and create rooms to root out investors with like-minds and hearts?
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First let me say thank you brother for instigating this conversation. Now, on to the plan. I believe that the way to go about this is through invasion and acquisition. These words may have a negative connotation but they describe a process that works in Nature and is most easilly seen on a Microbiotic level. This is what viruses do. They invade a cell and acquire its nucleus and use it to manufacture more of themselves. We need to do the same thing on a community scale.
Following the same metaphor; a virus invades a cell that offers less resistance. So that is the paradigm by which we should identify where we "invade". We need to begin by identifying communities that are in economic decline; yet still have available resources. In the body the virus seeks cells that are healthy but weakened by malnutrition. In a geoeconomic sense these are towns and small cities in regions that are being stressed by an economic downturn. I would suggest that for the use as an example we examine; western NC (where I intend to relocate) and the Ohio Valley. Both of these areas have human resources, a secure fresh water supply, good roads, the remnant of a rail system and most importantly the intellectual capital of an ongoing University structure. These regions have good sized University Cities surrounded by economically challenged smaller cities, towns and large villages.
My personal choice is NC in the Piedmont area between Charlotte and Asheville. I am now focused on Gastonia, Shelby, Bessmer City, Forest City, Polkville, and Boiling Springs. There are other communities in this region as well. In the process of making a selection we must examine the economic status of the locale. We need to select a community that has a high enough per capita income level to be capable of sustaining economic activity yet (following the virus model) weakened enough that we will be welcomed for bringing in new capital and not encounter an immune system that will prevent us from acquiring control.
I have chosen this area because it offers ready access to the Intersate Highway system and via that system easy commuting to Charlotte. I intend to establish a Metaphysical Teaching and Healing Center in Charlotte (vic) and a retreat in one of the smaller communities nearby. This will allow me to market both ventures to a sufficiently large enough population (over 1.7 million within 30 miles) and have a national reach via Charlotte Intl. Airport. I also have chosen this venue because of its proximity to first class medical facilities and major city cultural and recreational activities.
For those of us who are more interested in a less urban environment this region also offers relatively inexpensive arable land and the previously mentioned access to transportation to out ship produce. The smaller cities and towns in this region have large stocks of commercial realty available for small to medium scale manufacturing start ups. There are already a number of regional and even national corporations seeking to relocate there. This offers the potential for joint ventures. The University Community of Charlotte (29 colleges and universities) also offers a diversity of faculty and student population that have ties to communities and economies around the world.
This mixture of urban and rural economic opportunities is fertile, yet has been starved by the end of the dot com era and was "shaken down" by a pattern of over building around the region instigated by the expansion of the Real Estate Bubble of the past 12 years, resulting in a large inventory of foreclosed properties. Consequently there is still a large volume of available real estate at "fire sale" prices.
So Fred in answer to your three questions; we do build our Ball Park and an amusement complex adjacent to it with low cost residential housing for our employees, who will in turn invest their surplus income in economic development in the vicinity. They will have surplus income because we are smart enough to keep the cost of living; livable by producing our food supply regionally and consequently building a loyal consumer base that we (through our banking community) empower and finance to become entrepreneurs. We begin this amongst ourselves, which makes us the founding fathers & mothers. The founders always get rich, and if they have a vision of sustainability don't wind up losing their fortunes.
We take a multigenerational approach, within which we create not just a strong economic foundation but also a social contract that stresses families and communities. If we examine these "opportunitiy zones" we will see that they have become such because the individuals in control of the local economies did not have a long term vision and "ate their seed corn". At a time when they could have reinvested and sustained, they instead chose to extract their capital and speculate with it. In the various boom and busts that the national economy has undergone, they lost money starting with the aerospace industry of the 60s, the energy industry of the 70s (and the industries dependent upon it like airlines and manufacturing), the savings and loan industry of the 80s, the dot coms of the 90s, and the Real Estate Bubble of the late 90s and early 00s. And took the rest of the American people down with them.
All of this could have been avoided by reinvestment in the Industrial base of the 40s and 50s that was the basis of their wealth. Consequently we no longer have an automotive, electronic, textile, or machine tool industry in this country. The current service economy and investment economy are chimeras and are not sustainable. It doesn't take J.K. Galbraith to see this. Learning from history, we Black People and others willing to accept our leadership can within the lifetimes of our children being born today (the Crack of Dawn Babies), become the wealthiest society that the world (and then the Solar System) has ever known. With vision we can even colonize the seas and near space, in that same period. We can build the colonies on Luna and Mars. We can build the orbital habitats in the Lagrange Points.
I hope this vision, as long winded as it has been excites you. I am commited to it; not because it is my own, but because I see no other competing vision that offers us a similar future. I am aligned with the "Life Principle" and refuse to become a party to the increasingly rapid downward spiral toward the great "Die Off" that will result from our current social and economic trends. -
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MAN!!! I am with you completely!
I make a strong right hand man ... and I have skills to bring and a strong work ethic. I'm not too excited about the urban thing, but for a vision and a plan that gets me to my place in the country, I'll throw down with a brotha wit Real Estate experience and a well thought out plan ANY day. (Plus it gets me the HELL outta Oakland.... great place back in da day ... but dis AIN'T that day!)
Other good places are Jackson, Mississippi ... quiet as it's kept. A brother who works as for some representive says he and his partners are building a "villiage" above the flood plain in Vicksburg, MS. Bowling Green, KY and Knoxville, TN .... but we need to talk.
Hit me up at my email Al.... journeyman712@yahoo.com
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"Everything Changes" my brother.
There are PLENTY of places in the New South where "racism" is being far better dewlt with than in other regions of the country. Of course, there's the old commedian Dick Gregory who once said: "If you're south of the Canadian Border ... then you're "down South."
I'm talking about gaining land and controlling our economics. SOLUTIONS and not staying stuck in yesterday's problems. Nor ... am I talking about remaining in fear.
Just have a look at what I'm saying at: www.blacksolutions.blogspot.com
If you don't like that... then check out www.black.farms.wordpress.com
Basically ... it's waaaay too late in the day to honor any of our old ways of thinking. It's all broke. They have plans FOR us ... and history tells us that when "they" plan our future ... IT AIN'T GOOD.
In the Brave New World ... it ain't a question of South or North. It's GLOBAL ... virtual ... and seeing as they're watching everything on the web ... and there's cameras everywhere ... and more coming ... and cell phones can be monitored and people tracked who are carrying them ... and GPS systems tracked ... well ... brother ... don't it make a LITTLE sense to:
1. Get off the grid
2. Get wit some folks who are at least MORE LIKELY to watch your back
3. Constantly work with those folks to reprogram the "Chicken 'n a biscuit" mentality
4. Put some family and junk yard dogs and land with fresh water between you and them and them between "THEM"??
Brother ... do some research on the near future of the economy. This country is going to take some real economic hits as the world's wealth moves to Asia. Guess who will suffer the most?
No ... what's "stupid" is thinking that it's all "okay" and that it's business as usual.
Why worry about the klan when the worst "Klan" is the young "brothers and sisters" how've been turned into "Thug Kulture" and now terrorize our communites and kill more of us EACH YEAR than the Klu Klux Klan ever did during the ENTIRE period of Jim Crowe???
Time to boggie on down and get some land with some fresh water on it. Read my latest article. It's short. Shows how more money can be made by taking your future into your own hands. It ain't hard. What's hard is homelessness, drug and alcohol addiction, and going out to my car and seeing its been broken into yet one more time. Dat's hard brother ... dat's hard.
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Al!
I am LOVING what I've been reading on your past posts. (Mine and others.) I'm going to send you one of dem "invites" and ask you to be my friend. (Ha!)
You said it far better than I can. Talk to you more ... oh ... and I may have some questions about Tenn.
fred
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Yo Fred, that's some pretty quantum stuff you just posted.
Just kidding... seriously though, I have an abolish foreign outsourcing thread where I wish more people would come in and discuss stuff about how globalism is wrecking America's economy. That's the big thing that's sending wealth to Asia (and to the Middle East, where Saudi Arabia controls $600 billion in US debt).
And yeah, I'm hearing you on the thug kulture thing. That's why I moved away from the city.
My house is out away from the city, we have solar panels and a neighbor who's experimenting with a biodiesel generator. I've got enough acreage for a large garden and plenty of chickens, but I'm not sure if I want to actually wear myself out doing that. -
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Der YoU GOOOoooOOO!!!!
Right oN Brotha L. It's nice up there in SacTown ... but I hear it's getting crowded too. In fact, they say that in five years, it's going to be "Bay Area North". (Kinda scary, eh?)
But "L" ... why worry about who or what is supposedly "wrecking America's economy?" It's the world's richest ... pure and simple. You can call it the old super wealthy families ... you can say it's global Korporatocracy ... but it is what it is, and most folks say that the changes that have come over the last six years will remain in place for at least the next 50.
We won't see enough positive change in our productive life times to sweat it. So ... we might as well build some really quality lives for ourselves and "get out of the way." (Maybe those Iraq Vets are simply in training for any urban warfare they fear might jump off?)
So ... building intelligent bonds with thinking people who'll watch your back and keep you clued in is ... all good while you ... what ... live in that pad with solar panels and getting around in your biodiesel fueled "country Cadillac" (smile)
I'm curious ... which area are you moving to? Send me an email if you want to keep the info close. (I think if you send me a message via my ... page ... it'll get to my email box.)
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I live in the city and I like it. I have enough land to do farming and would like to get solar paneling one day. I've done the research on all of it already.
This year I will be doing squarefoot gardening on my land so that I still have enough left to enjoy. I think more black people in the city should do the same and I thing eventually when things get hard enough more black people will look back to growing their own food. Not all parts of the city are bad.
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Sorry folks, I've been away for a bit. I allowed myself to get caught up in some trivial issues and had to walk away for a bit.
OK I’m a bit confused here. Are you talking about building totally black communities that are self-reliant and isolated from the rest of the world? That would just be crazy. History has shown that by building a community that is separatist in nature you cause more problems then are solved.
First off, you lose the ability to keep up with new developments as you are limiting your resources. Secondly you build up the resentment of those who are not a part of the community. Thirdly, you are giving your enemies an easy target.
Giving up on the equation is not the answer. We (and I don't mean just blacks) need to work towards a common goal. Sure things are hard at times and I have no illusions that racism will end anytime soon, but as Al here pointed out there have been amazing strides forward. His recounting of the changes in the South is a prime example.
Globalization is a better answer. Isolation is just giving into fear.
People keep looking back on old ideas like they were something great. They didn't work in the past so we need to try something else. There were many black towns set up after slavery ended and look what happened to them. If you feel that this county will never accept us for who we are then this is definitely not the key.
Now I think that this could be the starting point of a great idea, but in the form it is in now it's just a reaction and not an action that will produce the desired results.
Maybe part of creating a better future is to buy land and business and support your local community first and foremost. Maybe another part is to get more involved in local politics. Maybe a third part is to get to know your current neighbors so that you know they will have your back. Chances are the issues we are having in the cities are just going to follow us wherever we go. We need to deal with them before we can move forward or at least as part of the forward moving process. -
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I don't agree, SaintOn. I think globalization is just another way for them to figure out how keep us from keeping our money black and in our communities. Now I'm not saying we shouldn't get into globalization at all but if we are lets keep it black and take it to Africa instead of China. Plus with the internet and all the technology going on you can have so many other streems of income while being off the grid.
I don't think Fred's saying we should be isolated from the rest of the world. I don't think he is talking about building a wall around a large chunck of land and saying okay no body who ain't black can cross this line. Our community can be dispersed and still come together. All we need is a common goal and regular meeting. The other people can live in between all they want.
I think Fred is just saying we just need to come together and take care of ourselves and plan our own future. White people have been governing us since we have been here and yes they did smash the few successful towns we had. But most of that was done by the proverty striken white class Al mentioned in his post.
And Al also made a good point about foreigners being more racist than white poeple. They didn't keep the racism here in the great US of A. They pass it on to other countries throught TV and media all the time and they come here with those view in their minds and try to treat us like dogs.
And if they are going to smash us for seeking out our own individual community success, they were going to smash us anyway. It just might have been a little slower. Like Fred said they have our future already planned it's up to us to decide if we are going to just be led to the slaughter once again.
You know what else whites, chinse, Africans and Arabs have their own communities all over the USA and I don' t see anyone smashing them. If anything they are growing and making money big time. White people come to work and deal with us and some deal with us on social levels but when they are done they go home and live their lives. Why can't we do the same. Why do we have to take them into consideration when ever we think about doing anything. We start shaking in our boots talking about you know the white people aint going to like this. So What! Only thing we need to be concerned about is getting around any road block they may lay. You ain't got to be mean about it, just determined and focused on what your goal is going to be. I'm not mean to any of the white folks I work or deal with, we just come together and then we part. They want to do business, smile make your deal and keep on moving.
And even with globalization, black people gotta have some land some where or where are we going to live. I am totally for living off the grid. -
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Check this out. It's an insider secret.
www.publiclistings.realtown.com
For twenty years I worked here in NYC in the Real Estate Biz. It is probably the dirtiest, roughest, most insular market in the world. And I worked in Brooklyn which is the top (or bottom depending on your orientation) of that heap. Brooklyn brought the world both the concept and practice of "Blockbusting" and the Trump family. To earn your spurs here you gotta be smart enough to bring a gun to a knife fight. It aint for wimps or cry babies. I am now fully aligned with the wisdom of the rat, "when the ship starts to sink, learn to swim." NYC is used up so I'm taking my skill set and lamming out of here so fast you may hear a sonic boom. But I did learn the business.
One of the most important lessons I learned, which can be transplanted into any other endeavor is that knowledge is the most highly refined form of capital. The link I put in this posting is to the national clearinghouse for the IDX system of almost all of the MLSs accross the country. Sites like Realtor.com and Homestore.com, etc are only showing you the properties that brokers are willing to pay a fee to advertise. The link I gave you allows you to view all the other listing in their systems. It is where you will find the listing of undeveloped land as well as houses that lack the incentive (to the broker and agent) of an inflated price and high commission. LMFAO Us it wisely and hurry to do so. There is a move afoot to close the access to this set of leads. It is very intuitive and you can learn to use it in a snap.
www.hmbireo.com/
this other link isn't national but it does give you connection to HMBI which is a clearinghouse and data source for HUD and bank foreclosures. It want have land but it will have the foreclosed HUD house in quite a few states; most of which sell at a 40-55% discount.
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What's up everyone?
I hate to sound like a broken record ... but, reading your messages really is like rain water on a Somali desert. My heart ... relaxes. (It's STRESSFUL struggling in a world filled with folks firmly attached to failure and self-destruction. You don't realize it until you come face-to-face with its contradiction.)
Al .. man ... where are you moving to? Is your move going to be internal (while geographically remaining in NY) or are you actually going back to someplace like Tennessee?
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By the way, here's something for everyone to consider, when moving back to the South.
Hurricane Katrina.
In the North, you'd never have that happen to so many black people. Thanks to Katrina, thousands of black people were kicked out of their land and moved into Nazi hell holes like Texas, etc., where they now have even LESS power than they had before.
So many blacks, once concentrated in New Orleans, are now scattered all over the south, in the most hostile anti-black parts of the WORLD, grossly outnumbered in their new surroundings... it's a recipe for utter disaster.
I've just been out to Texas and Oklahoma, and even the more rural parts of California. Rural areas are DANGEROUS. You get outnumbered out there and there's no sense of security... even less than in the big cities with all the gangs.
Gangs don't burn crosses on your yard and drag you behind a truck and rape and piss on your daughter just for the hell of it. When I was in Texas and Oklahoma, I saw ALL of that happening. Rural parts of Fresno, CA? Quite a bit of that was going on but not like Okie and Texas.
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My Brother L.
Have you ever lived in the South? A visit to NYC wouldn't tell you enough about the way of life to decide whether or not to decide to live here either. Also who would want to live in a broken down desolate majority white small town anyway? There is some truth in what you have said about the life in rural America, but it's negative aspects don't just apply to blacks. A big city white would have trouble relocating there too. Of course this is equally true in any "outback". In places like these there are always one or two, at most four or five families who own everything and control everything. They consequently control local politics; electing the mayor, chief of police, judge, town's attorney, etc. If you were to try to move into their "matrix" you would trully find yourself in a bind.
I am one of those people who propose moving to the south. But not the "one horse town" south; but rather the smaller cities in the 15,000 to 45,000 size range, within a 1 hour drive of a major city with a 1 million plus population base. This is why I have chosen the Piedmont area of North Carolina. There are such locales in Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Virginia, etc. Oklahoma and Texas are much more western than they are southern (in mindset rather than geography). If these two are "southern" then California is too. It does sit on America's southern border after all, as well as the west coast. How would you fare in some of the small towns in northern California? I can't imagine that places like that or even those places in eastern Ca. heading into Nevada are any different.
As far as the KKK. It's like the Black Panthers; there's always someone trying for a revival, but it will never reach its power it had decades ago. How about these "good" Californians:
AMERICAN KLAN KNIGHTS OF THE KU KLUX KLAN - Based in Modesto, California, with Affiliates in Oregon and Washington State.
"Blacks down there have just learned to live with the constant Sword of Damocles hanging over their head." Yeah just like the mayor of Ahseville North Carolina; a young black woman elected in a town in which only 17% of the population is black. How about Harold Ford, Jr. who came within 2% of the vote to win a seat in the US Senate, for the first time in Tenn. history a black man compteted on his merit without the spectre of "ol time ways". It took the full effort of the entire national Republican Party and millions of dollars of television race baiting ads to defeat him. There are still places in the south that I won't drive throuough, but there are white parts of NYC and Boston I won't drive through either.
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